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Old 07-26-2018, 09:17 AM
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Thanks guys,

Yes I have a carbon tube and can lift the plane with the stinger... which I think was a good idea. I might put a hole and run a tube coming from the bottom of the fuse to the carbon tube and pin it with a bolt. I honestly haven't looked at the elevator attachment enough to figure it out.

Other question: How long is the air cylinder for the speed brake? Is 4" travel about right?

Finally have other fires put out and can spend time on this plane!

Do any of you European guys know Francesco Mondinelli? He makes beautiful cockpits. I've been trying to get him to make even just the seats for the SU-27. If a bunch of us got together and guaranteed orders, wonder if he would do it???... I can't stand the idea of putting a vacuum-formed cockpit in this gorgeous plane. I can design and print the side panels and instrument panel, the seats are past my CAD abilities. I have the SLA printer to print them in high detail, just not the chops to design the seat.
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Hi guys!!
I forgot to tell you about my new 5' Robbarts light wheels and brakes test flight, they worked really well not a problem retracting them even dough they are heavier than dubros, braking is also a lot better now
The only thing is that they don't hold the weight of the plane when is seated for long periods of time, the good thing is that they recover their round shape really fast, not like dubros that once they go flat they'll stay that way.... at least on my case that I leave the plane asembled at a hangar for long periods of time,,,,
Old 08-15-2018, 01:31 PM
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I love this hobby and how total strangers from around the world can share ideas and designs! Dirk shared his fender design earlier in this thread. He sent me the file, and I printed with my SLA printer. Can't wait to get it mounted. I accidentally ordered the two wheel nose gear, getting it converted back to a single now.


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Originally Posted by DrScoles
I love this hobby and how total strangers from around the world can share ideas and designs! Dirk shared his fender design earlier in this thread. He sent me the file, and I printed with my SLA printer. Can't wait to get it mounted. I accidentally ordered the two wheel nose gear, getting it converted back to a single now.


It looks great!! can you sell one for my SU?
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I'm not in this for selling stuff. And Dirk specifically asked that I didn't. I don't think he'd mind me passing on the file and you can send it to shape ways and they will print it for you, would that work? I am still tweaking the file a little, making it thicker in a few places. I can share once I've got it dialed. For best detail, it needs to be SLA printed, not from a filament printer. Here it is painted. For my matrix gear, I will need to print a bracket for the two top supports. Not sure how the newer Sierra gear would attach.
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Anyone had any experience with the new Down and Locked gear? Looks like this and Matrix gear are available in E versions - anyone got any real world experience with either or any feedback before I take the plunge? The pictures I've seen of the D&L stuff look really good but I don't think there are many sets out there yet.

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I’ve got the original ones. Where did you see pics of new and e type?
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Hi Andrew, i have not seen anyone with those e gears, but I noticed that Carf was offering s new set of elec gear not long ago, also Erwin from Air tech has an electric gear for the SU....
Or do you already have a set and want to convert?

QUOTE=Andrew Bird;12459175]Anyone had any experience with the new Down and Locked gear? Looks like this and Matrix gear are available in E versions - anyone got any real world experience with either or any feedback before I take the plunge? The pictures I've seen of the D&L stuff look really good but I don't think there are many sets out there yet.

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I have the matrix E gear, looks really good. He made scale metal hubs with real rubber. Big question is will they cycle in the air. You can tune them out by holding them and it doesn’t take a lot of force to do that... I haven’t tried them st the max of 7.4 volts yet, hopefully that will be enough. John did a very nice job and the price was fair as well.
Old 08-31-2018, 10:25 PM
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I have ordered the airframe and am ordering the gear so have flexibility on what I go for - electric would be nice for a more scale like retraction speed.

There were some pictures of the new gear on the CARF Facebook page and they looked nice but I think the Matrix gear is a bit cheaper. Just trying to size up the options

Good to see this gear being done with nice wheels now instead of the Dubro's!
Old 10-02-2018, 06:31 AM
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NOT SURE IF YOU KIDS SEEN THIS VIDEO..... WITH 1 TURBINE DIGITAL CAMO SU-27
Old 10-02-2018, 12:40 PM
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Saw that one at Florida Jets this year. All I can think is....why?
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Originally Posted by Auburn02
Saw that one at Florida Jets this year. All I can think is....why?
Totally agree.... its not much more expensive with the second turbine... and it gives you redundancy....
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Mine is currently off being painted with Phil Noel. Not sure I can contain the excitement of waiting Will be interesting to see this new gear when it arrives - hope it doesn't take too long.
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Originally Posted by Auburn02
Saw that one at Florida Jets this year. All I can think is....why?
in Europe there is a strict 25kg wet rule, this makes it easy for people to achieve. The twin needs small 100 size turbines to achieve the weight limit without lots of work.

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NEW SKYMASTER SU-30
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Old 10-09-2018, 07:09 PM
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Wow did you guys notice the blue sky behind the clouds, normally all the videos from China the sky is gray and no sun 🌞
Old 10-10-2018, 11:33 AM
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Can somebody tell me what is dry weight of this CARF SU-27?
Thanks
Old 10-11-2018, 08:00 AM
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Obviously on a plane that size it can vary significantly based on equipment, batteries, even just wiring. In my case, 49.9 lbs dry with a pair of 160s.
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I understand, it depends on.
One guy trying to build it with two K85G2 not heavie then 20 kg (for JWM). Is it possible without huge reconstructions or not? What do you think?
Old 10-12-2018, 07:35 AM
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Not sure that's going to be possible. The K-85s are only going to save about 2 lbs from the 160s in my build, not sure where you could shave another 4 lbs. My weight was also with junky Dubro wheels, definitely not JWM quality.

Oh, another huge factor, my weight was pre-cockpit. Completely forgot about that also. 20kg would take some kind of miracle.
Old 10-12-2018, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Auburn02
Not sure that's going to be possible.....20kg would take some kind of miracle.
Agreed! Miracle or right placed hands and hard professional rebuild most of parts: fins, stabilizers, air brakes, gear doors and many other.
any way big thanks for your opinion Sir.
Old 10-14-2018, 05:15 PM
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My SU-27 arrived. Custom painted and weathered by CARF. It looks incredible! Looking forward to getting her airborne.


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Old 10-14-2018, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dubd
My SU-27 arrived. Custom painted and weathered by CARF. It looks incredible
My congratulations!!!
What is the weight of kit? Landing gear installed?


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