Introducing the Top RC Model Odyssey - New sport jet - build thread
06-09-2020, 04:19 AM
#576
So, even though I really upset with the embarrassing quality, I did some progress building it.
I decided to use the fuel tanks accessories that came with it, and not to invest in FCT or similar, because, a. it does not deserves is and b. FCT or not, it's working just the same.
But doing so, revealed another design flaw, well...
I decided to use the fuel tanks accessories that came with it, and not to invest in FCT or similar, because, a. it does not deserves is and b. FCT or not, it's working just the same.
But doing so, revealed another design flaw, well...
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bodywerks (06-11-2020)
06-12-2020, 02:24 PM
#578
I had very bad experience with this plane too. The bottom side of both flaps were warp and it bind so bad that the flaps once down, they can't come back up. I had to heat it up with heat gun then bend it till it cooled. I thought it was enough to hold the shape until I got to the field. It returned to the original warped shape. I had to break it to loosen it up. When I went home, I put a layer of fiberglass on the inside to keep it in shape.
Another down side is I tried to get GatorRC to help and Mike got in touch with TOPRC and they concluded that this is a learning lesson for them. No one did anything. This isn't over yet. I got the landing gears from TopRC and one of the main retract broke after only a few landings. Now, the nose gear and one of the main still works but the other main remains down all the time. I have to fly the plane with all gears down.
Also, the Robart gears for this plane is a piece of sh** too, worse than the chinese gears.
Another down side is I tried to get GatorRC to help and Mike got in touch with TOPRC and they concluded that this is a learning lesson for them. No one did anything. This isn't over yet. I got the landing gears from TopRC and one of the main retract broke after only a few landings. Now, the nose gear and one of the main still works but the other main remains down all the time. I have to fly the plane with all gears down.
Also, the Robart gears for this plane is a piece of sh** too, worse than the chinese gears.
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snir2001 (06-12-2020)
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bodywerks (06-12-2020)
06-13-2020, 08:44 AM
#582
The plane flies good. The quality is crap though. I didn't mention that my rudder had hole about the 10mm. I think it came from the factory during packaging. the problem is that the customer pays the price for them to learn.
I also bought a toprc aspire last December because it was on sale for almost half price. this time I got lucky. No damage but they snorted me on the hinges. I had to cut them out from the g10 fiberglass sheet. They always intentionally short parts on the kits. You'll never get a complete kit.
I also bought a toprc aspire last December because it was on sale for almost half price. this time I got lucky. No damage but they snorted me on the hinges. I had to cut them out from the g10 fiberglass sheet. They always intentionally short parts on the kits. You'll never get a complete kit.
06-13-2020, 09:19 AM
#584
Well, if they always replace parts then I would have gotten a new set of wings and vertical fin but I didn't. I had to pay the price tor them to learn.
For them, you are a high profile because you started the build threads on a lot of their models. For all of us, we are just trash.
For them, you are a high profile because you started the build threads on a lot of their models. For all of us, we are just trash.
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snir2001 (06-13-2020)
06-13-2020, 09:21 AM
#585
i don't know who you talked to. I'm talking about TopRC model in China. it is not just for me. i have seen it in any case that needed help.
if you ever run into any issues please give me a shout and I'd be more than happy to help. you will be taken care of.
if you ever run into any issues please give me a shout and I'd be more than happy to help. you will be taken care of.
06-13-2020, 10:24 AM
#588
I have so many problems with it, that I hardly believe I will get any better than what I already have.
So, I'm trying to fix the issues, for sure better than TopRC themselves.
Anyway, you better off with used quality one than new one from TopRC...
Cheers.
06-13-2020, 01:04 PM
#589
The quality isn't at par with skymaster, jetlegend and feibao that's why it is a few hundred bucks cheaper. And that's why the customer has to put in extra effort to fix them. I don't see that TOPRC will ever be at par to their competitors in the jet theater. However, they are the only one with affordable composite kits for prop warbirds though. There aren't many manufacturers for warbirds. Comp arf is great but too pricey.
I have a few TopRC warbirds (3), they are ok, not much details on the skin like comp arf. So far, I have not gotten a kit with a complete hardware package. Always short on the fiberglass control horns and some times the L brackets for the servo. There are always issue with the kit such as the formers delaminated from the skin. The push rods are too weak and the ball links are too small and weak for the size. You will need to replace the ball links and push rods for sure.
If you are willing to overlook those problems then it is worth the price.
I have a few TopRC warbirds (3), they are ok, not much details on the skin like comp arf. So far, I have not gotten a kit with a complete hardware package. Always short on the fiberglass control horns and some times the L brackets for the servo. There are always issue with the kit such as the formers delaminated from the skin. The push rods are too weak and the ball links are too small and weak for the size. You will need to replace the ball links and push rods for sure.
If you are willing to overlook those problems then it is worth the price.
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Sky Toys (06-13-2020)
06-15-2020, 06:40 AM
#590
Oh yeah, building tips:
1. make sure you check the fuel tank for leak. put water in it and blow into it to create pressure and check for leak. The fiberglass fuel tanks have tendency to leak. Both my odyssey and aspire fuel tanks leak bad. Easy fix though. I glue the fuel tanks into the fuse with the flexible silicone glue at the top corners Much stronger and can cut it out if needed. Don't strap it down. I don't believe the support foundation is strong enough to keep the tank down.
2. Make sure your nose weight is removable so you can adjusted the cg afterwards. I just took a leap of faith and follow the cg recommendation on the thread and glue to nose weight into the nose cone. Now, my plane is too nose heavy and I can't reduce the weight..
1. make sure you check the fuel tank for leak. put water in it and blow into it to create pressure and check for leak. The fiberglass fuel tanks have tendency to leak. Both my odyssey and aspire fuel tanks leak bad. Easy fix though. I glue the fuel tanks into the fuse with the flexible silicone glue at the top corners Much stronger and can cut it out if needed. Don't strap it down. I don't believe the support foundation is strong enough to keep the tank down.
2. Make sure your nose weight is removable so you can adjusted the cg afterwards. I just took a leap of faith and follow the cg recommendation on the thread and glue to nose weight into the nose cone. Now, my plane is too nose heavy and I can't reduce the weight..
06-15-2020, 06:42 AM
#591
Oh yeah, building tips:
1. make sure you check the fuel tank for leak. put water in it and blow into it to create pressure and check for leak. The fiberglass fuel tanks have tendency to leak. Both my odyssey and aspire fuel tanks leak bad. Easy fix though. I glue the fuel tanks into the fuse with the flexible silicone glue at the top corners Much stronger and can cut it out if needed. Don't strap it down. I don't believe the support foundation is strong enough to keep the tank down.
2. Make sure your nose weight is removable so you can adjusted the cg afterwards. I just took a leap of faith and follow the cg recommendation on the thread and glue to nose weight into the nose cone. Now, my plane is too nose heavy and I can't reduce the weight..
1. make sure you check the fuel tank for leak. put water in it and blow into it to create pressure and check for leak. The fiberglass fuel tanks have tendency to leak. Both my odyssey and aspire fuel tanks leak bad. Easy fix though. I glue the fuel tanks into the fuse with the flexible silicone glue at the top corners Much stronger and can cut it out if needed. Don't strap it down. I don't believe the support foundation is strong enough to keep the tank down.
2. Make sure your nose weight is removable so you can adjusted the cg afterwards. I just took a leap of faith and follow the cg recommendation on the thread and glue to nose weight into the nose cone. Now, my plane is too nose heavy and I can't reduce the weight..
06-15-2020, 07:10 AM
#592
Oh yeah, building tips:
1. make sure you check the fuel tank for leak. put water in it and blow into it to create pressure and check for leak. The fiberglass fuel tanks have tendency to leak. Both my odyssey and aspire fuel tanks leak bad. Easy fix though. I glue the fuel tanks into the fuse with the flexible silicone glue at the top corners Much stronger and can cut it out if needed. Don't strap it down. I don't believe the support foundation is strong enough to keep the tank down.
2. Make sure your nose weight is removable so you can adjusted the cg afterwards. I just took a leap of faith and follow the cg recommendation on the thread and glue to nose weight into the nose cone. Now, my plane is too nose heavy and I can't reduce the weight..
1. make sure you check the fuel tank for leak. put water in it and blow into it to create pressure and check for leak. The fiberglass fuel tanks have tendency to leak. Both my odyssey and aspire fuel tanks leak bad. Easy fix though. I glue the fuel tanks into the fuse with the flexible silicone glue at the top corners Much stronger and can cut it out if needed. Don't strap it down. I don't believe the support foundation is strong enough to keep the tank down.
2. Make sure your nose weight is removable so you can adjusted the cg afterwards. I just took a leap of faith and follow the cg recommendation on the thread and glue to nose weight into the nose cone. Now, my plane is too nose heavy and I can't reduce the weight..
06-15-2020, 07:11 AM
#593
i3dm what you said is so true. Because of the deep nose, it is hard to make it removable. Afterwards, I develop a method to make it removable. First, I put all the lead balls into the sandwich plastic bag and lower it to the nose. Put the plane nose down and stick a wood stick into weight puddle.
The plane still flies good with my current cg. I just need to relocate my batteries but I am so lazy doing that. Next time, when I need to replace the batteries then I'll relocate it.
The plane still flies good with my current cg. I just need to relocate my batteries but I am so lazy doing that. Next time, when I need to replace the batteries then I'll relocate it.
06-15-2020, 11:56 AM
#595
my odyssey has travelled with me twice globally to Jetpower, been beaten severely by the airline people both times, flew hundreds of flights and still going strong.
i have seen issues with 15K$ kits just as much as with 1500$ kits. but TopRC Model takes care of everything and everyone, unlike some 15K$ kit manufacturers
that i know for sure.
i have no interest in turning this thread into a pissing contest, just felt a line was crossed with foul language and i do not appreciate that.
attaching one of my flight videos from Jetpower. hope you guys like it:
i have seen issues with 15K$ kits just as much as with 1500$ kits. but TopRC Model takes care of everything and everyone, unlike some 15K$ kit manufacturers
that i know for sure.
i have no interest in turning this thread into a pissing contest, just felt a line was crossed with foul language and i do not appreciate that.
attaching one of my flight videos from Jetpower. hope you guys like it:
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Sky Toys (06-16-2020)
06-15-2020, 09:55 PM
#596
Of course, it's my opinion, if one is upset with it, so be it, this it not a pissing contest....
Anyway, out of respect for the OP, I will (Maybe) open a new thread about my experience with this product, if I will keep it.
My Odyssey is still for sale, for a good price.
06-15-2020, 10:44 PM
#597
Hello
For information.
I use metal (alloy) that melts at 70 ° celsius, I flow directly into the nose. I found at an aircraft manufacturer.
It is fairly easy to remove either by pouring hot water or with a heating tool.
Here is the product, sorry it's in french.
https://www.ouverture-fine.com/moula...de-fusion.html
For information.
I use metal (alloy) that melts at 70 ° celsius, I flow directly into the nose. I found at an aircraft manufacturer.
It is fairly easy to remove either by pouring hot water or with a heating tool.
Here is the product, sorry it's in french.
https://www.ouverture-fine.com/moula...de-fusion.html
06-16-2020, 07:08 PM
#598
Metal that melts at 70 degree c. Wow, that is nice. Can you translate the name to English. there use to be someone on here that sells the metal dust. I bought some and it was great. I don't know what happened to the rest of it. I was looking for it again but couldn't find anything affordable. so I had to use the fishing lead balls. This metal. Is a quantum leap in technology for me. I would like to have some.
06-16-2020, 07:19 PM
#599
There are a lot of complaints about the quality of this toprc product on other built threads. Almost all toprc planes. If you are lucky, you get something decent, if not, you'll hate it. But your kit isn't as bad as mine. Both my wings have warp flaps on the topside lips, a pencil size hole on the vertical fin, broken main retract, pin size hole on the fuel tank, missing hardware, etc. I can go all night with this. I didn't inspect the rib in the wings, so I don't know if it is ok. I should do that.
But it flies good. However, I would not buy it for $1800. I would rather pay 400 more for the skymaster
But it flies good. However, I would not buy it for $1800. I would rather pay 400 more for the skymaster
06-16-2020, 08:22 PM
#600
There are a lot of complaints about the quality of this toprc product on other built threads. Almost all toprc planes. If you are lucky, you get something decent, if not, you'll hate it. But your kit isn't as bad as mine. Both my wings have warp flaps on the topside lips, a pencil size hole on the vertical fin, broken main retract, pin size hole on the fuel tank, missing hardware, etc. I can go all night with this. I didn't inspect the rib in the wings, so I don't know if it is ok. I should do that.
But it flies good. However, I would not buy it for $1800. I would rather pay 400 more for the skymaster
But it flies good. However, I would not buy it for $1800. I would rather pay 400 more for the skymaster
Well spoken.